tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post1678263447769861082..comments2023-09-19T04:44:58.904-07:00Comments on Musings from a Theo-Geek: A God Who is Not Sovereign is Not GodMariehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15411152395819469453noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post-87685109898547264752010-08-10T08:59:14.736-07:002010-08-10T08:59:14.736-07:00Thanks Glenn,
I am still learning. The good thing...Thanks Glenn,<br /><br />I am still learning. The good thing is that this is not a salvation issue and something that we will surely understand in the end.Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00380432930727921469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post-16452527742378057392010-08-10T06:00:23.231-07:002010-08-10T06:00:23.231-07:00Hi Ma,
It would take too long and mess up this b...Hi Ma, <br /><br />It would take too long and mess up this blog with a Calvinist debate, but a God who decides before creation who will be saved regardless of their choice is an unloving God who creates people with no chance of salvation. And if He truly does behave as 5-pointers claim, then we are nothing more than preprogrammed robots. And if God has already decided who will be saved, what is the point of evangelizing.<br /><br />Scripture very often tells us to make our choice for God, and God actually commands us to repent, but if we can't do so on our own choice, then the whole thing is a big lie.<br /><br />I would suggest Dave Hunt's excellent book, "What Love Is This?" for refutation of all the Calvinists' claims. By the way, I am also not an Arminian - I just take the Bible for what it says.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post-7528015349325062592010-08-10T04:21:25.218-07:002010-08-10T04:21:25.218-07:00Hi Glenn,
I'm still trying to figure it all o...Hi Glenn,<br /><br />I'm still trying to figure it all out. I don't know if I am a true 5 pointer....yet. But it does seem to me that God has chosen the ones whom He will save and not just the method.<br /><br />Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. <br /><br />And in way, I think we DO have choice, but none of us would chose Him if it were up to us.<br /><br />Thanks for the welcome Marie;)Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00380432930727921469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post-58136798651751937562010-08-09T15:24:29.638-07:002010-08-09T15:24:29.638-07:00Ma,
I'm wondering what you mean.
Calvinists...Ma, <br /><br />I'm wondering what you mean.<br /><br />Calvinists often accuse those of us who are not Calvinists as having a God who isn't sovereign just because we say God allows man to choose whether to accept Christ rather than the Calvinist idea that God chooses who will be save from the beginning of time and that we have no choice in the matter. However, this has no affect on God's sovereignty because He is the one who determined the method of salvation (faith in Christ).<br /><br />Are we the kind you are saying have a God who isn't sovereign?Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post-26124531772827004442010-08-09T15:19:54.883-07:002010-08-09T15:19:54.883-07:00Welcome Ma,
Yes; I have noticed that among many p...Welcome Ma,<br /><br />Yes; I have noticed that among many professing Christians. If you take the God-is-not-completely-sovereign position to its logical conclusion, man is running the universe and it's as if He is at our beck and call. You don't have to be a "5 Point Calvinist", in fact, to see this.<br /><br />Quite an absurd, inverted view of an omnipotent God!Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411152395819469453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post-76561010550856616062010-08-09T15:10:41.297-07:002010-08-09T15:10:41.297-07:00I am newly reformed here in my soteriology, too an...I am newly reformed here in my soteriology, too and am running into lots of people whose God is Not sovereign.Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00380432930727921469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5578595981424253854.post-70772739314767916572010-07-26T19:04:18.602-07:002010-07-26T19:04:18.602-07:00The man has a very weak God!The man has a very weak God!Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.com